Unless I'm missing something, isn't the naming a bit premature? Just because it's very likely to happen doesn't mean we can pretend it has. - Khendon 10:36 Mar 17, 2003 (UTC)
<sarcasm>Surely you cannot doubt the combined forces... of the tarot, crystal ball, the I Ching and the countless confirmatory organs of divination relied on by Miss Cleo?!?!?!? How boring and dull to wait for something to happen before you report it, when you can predict it and scoop all the other wikipedias!!</sarcasm> -- Someone else 10:53 Mar 17, 2003 (UTC)
S.E. actually has a point, Khendon. As of Monday 3/17/03 the "plan" to invade was upgraded from a possible scenario into a fairly stern threat. I'd say "prospective invasion" was fair at this point, although I still have hopes that Bush will listen to Rev. Moon and call it off. Violence cannot make peace; only God's parental love can reconcile warring brothers. --Uncle Ed 19:06 Mar 17, 2003 (UTC)
Then we can simply rename it Invasion of Iraq[?] or if there have been too many invasions, Invasion of Iraq (2003)[?]. Perhaps at some point we should re-organize or re-title some of these articles, though, because I've lost count of how many there are discussing the prospect or possibility or plan for a US-led invasion of Iraq, in the aftermath of 9/11.
This may be moot as of tomorrow, but I strongly agree that this article's title is premature. -- Zoe
For one thing, there are 46 (I counted 'em) REDIRECT's to U.S. plan to invade Iraq, which is currently a redirect page to US invasion of Iraq. --Uncle Ed 16:23 Mar 20, 2003 (UTC)
The invasion is not entirely a "US invasion" as British forces are also involved. Is there a way to rename the article that won't seem to "hide" the US initiative, leadership and responsibility for the invasion?
The latter seems fine to me; I don't think there's any disputation that it's a US-led operation. - Khendon
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Um, what the hell is going on? What's this new US-led invasion article? Is someone planning a big useful reorganisation, or just messing things up? Someone please clarify... --AW
An article limited to a pure description of the actual invasion - not what happened before it or political controversy, just the military invasion itself. This can be "US-led invasion of Iraq" or "2003 invasion of Iraq" (this actually strikes me as a better title - this is an encyclopaedia, there may be other US-led invasions of Iraq people want to discuss. 2003 invasion is less ambiguous).
The other stuff from this page can be rolled into other articles, possibly - the "disarmament crisis" articles and the WMD article, perhaps. Any others? Whatever, let's get it done quickly, I have a bunch of stuff about the actual invasion and nowhere to put it at the moment. --AW
So, is there any objection to renaming this article to 2003 invasion of Iraq? ( 11:43 Mar 22, 2003 (UTC)
Almost all of it went to Preparations for 2003 invasion of Iraq. There is also important relevant stuff at Iraq disarmament crisis, United Nations actions regarding Iraq, Support and opposition for the U.S. plan to invade Iraq, Iraqi production and use of weapons of mass destruction and Worldwide government positions on war on Iraq. I think all the important stuff that used to be here is covered between those pages. I'll add them to the "also see" section on this page. --AW
OK, I've shunted most of the deleted stuff over to Preparations for 2003 invasion of Iraq. I think there's some stuff I didn't put there that probably belongs in one of the UN articles instead, will have a look at that now. I propose this article be renamed 2003 invasion of Iraq, because as I stated above, it's much less ambiguous than US invasion of Iraq. --AW
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This entry should be named "U.S. invasion of Iraq". See the Talk:2001 U.S. Attack on Afghanistan. This is an equivalently U.S.-dominated campaign, if not more so. --The Cunctator
Sure, there are various countries involved in the war, but there were in Afghanistan as well. The thing is, most of the initiative and actions are being handled by the Americans, whereas Eritrea is mainly in this for moral support (or something like that). Perhaps someone can point to some source explaining where the other coalition members have been filling in more than just supportive roles?
Poland has announced they have forces on the ground in Iraq. Denmark has a submarine off the coast. Czech Republic, Bulgaria and Romania have WMD-sniffing equipment in Kuwait. Australia and the UK have forces involved in battle and have had casualties.
Whatever you call it I know which conflict you mean and that is what a title is for. History will decide on the final name or names. Meanwhile don't get bogged down in polemics Ping
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