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I'm a yet insignificant disturbance on Wikipedia, looking around, touching objects and observe the feeling.

I am a significant disturbance on The Open Directory Project where I mainly disturb all the Hungarian categories, like World::Magyar (http://dmoz.org/World/Magyar/) and Regional::Europe::Hungary (http://dmoz.org/Regional/Europe/Hungary/). I happened to wikicise Hungary in Ward's Wiki[?] as HungaryCountry (http://c2.com/cgi/wiki?HungaryCountry) which offers a different kind of view on the country.

You guessed right, I'm a citizen of Hungary, a Computer Engineer[?], Programmer, Writer or in one word, a Geek.

All of the true things that I am about to tell you are shameless lies. -- Bokonon (from Kurt Vonnegut's Cat's Cradle)

grin 09:55 Apr 14, 2003 (UTC)

I am urging to start the hu.wikipedia.org, see Meta:User:grin for further info. -- grin 09:31 4 Jul 2003 (UTC)

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Welcome to Wikipedia! It's always good to have someone to break up the US/UK/Canada/Australia contributor list. :) Check out Wikipedia:Help and the Wikipedia:FAQs for help, and the Wikipedia:Village pump to ask questions. -- Stephen Gilbert 13:32 Apr 17, 2003 (UTC)

Thanks. I've actually been through with most of the FAQ and introductory materials (they're really verbose and take ages to read, I bet I was the first :) fortunately good organised), but it's a good advice anyway. I already met parallel editing and removing stupid change in my text, and a friendly merge of my mistakenly double submission.
I'm trying to cast life into hu.wikipedia.org but pretty hard to get a reaction from the gods it seems. grin 14:21 Apr 17, 2003 (UTC)

Hey Grin! I got a sugestion... Go to www.sapo.pt, follow the link genealogia (in the side bar) and you will find a GOTHA BOOK online, very detailed. Thing is that is in portuguese (it rimes!). But somewhere there is a dicionary and princesa is not so different to princess. Muriel Gottrop[?]

Thanks. I actually checked plenty of genealogies before editing ( http://www.dcs.hull.ac.uk/cgi-bin/gedidex/n=royal?hungary being one of the most detailed and accurate ) and there are conflicting data all over, even in reliable sources (like the Pallas Encyclopedia, which is one of the largest one in the history of Hungary).

Interesting problem for example Henry II, Duke of Bavaria who is referenced as the Quarrelsome in the 30%, and the Wrangler in the rest of the references (in contrast of Henry I, Duke of Bavaria[?], who is referenced just the opposite).

I see you are interested in Hungary. Check the FEMALE descendancy of Princess Ana (died ca1547), married to Ferdinand the Roman Emperor, and... surprise! EVERYBODY (royal houses, i mean) comes from her or her daughters! Muriel

Being a Hungarian may possibly translated as "being interested in Hungary" :-). Checking the family trees are interesting anyway: one grandchild of St. Stephen (St. Cunigunda of Luxembourg, daughter of Hedwig, daughter of Stephan I) married into the German Royal family, and her child (or some other descendants, I can't recall now) is into the English Royal family and from then pretty much of the german and english royals were descendants of them. [Anne of Bohemia maybe isn't the best example since the "original" royal family of Hungary (called the House of Árpád) died out in 1301. But then again, who can tell who was "Hungarian king" anyway.] I'm sure Europe's history was that interconnected, so we can't really say "we're 100% spanish origin" or like because nations' leaders made their kids marry other kings and princes from Europe. We've been already united, around or before 1000AD! :-) grin 09:21 19 May 2003 (UTC)

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