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Message for 213.38.124.94:

Please take a moment to read what Wikipedia is not, amongst other things, it's not a collection of external links. Either write articles on the individual parties (or at least stubs) or include the external links on the main page. Please stop adding articles with only the external links in them.

Also, please use the "show preview" button and stop saving the page after every spelling error you correct. this makes for long page history, making it annoying for users and unnecesseraly draining server resources. Zocky 18:09 Jan 24, 2003 (UTC)

Zocky, try doing what I just did: move the link into a larger, more important article; then, replace the stub with something like #REDIRECT [[Worldwide green parties]] --Uncle Ed

It shouldn't be a redirect, it'll just send people back to this article, creating an effective loop-back link, which we don't want. Zocky 18:23 Jan 24, 2003 (UTC)

Any reason all the instance of "green" and "party" are bolded in most of the text? :S -- Sam

Too many people hacking it and moving it around, likely, style got short shrift.

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This article is simply titled incorrectly. These are the "big-G" Green parties, and so they are known everywhere in the world. Capitalization is significant in this case as it implies a proper name and identification. In fact when you hear the term Green Party" you almost always are hearing a reference to the local parties at whatever level (municipal, regional/state, or federal government). So the correct nomenclature would go like this:

The Green parties, plural, referring to the globally cooperating parties in this article. Capitalization significant and used throughout the text. Since one never refers to multiple parties without encountering this common mandate, i.e. all non-Green green parties are leftovers or spinoffs, the plural is the right term. Two green parties is always, so far as anyone sees, two Green parties. Whereas one can just be a

green party, singular, referring to the general mandate of ecology and environmentalism, and making very clear that these do not always imply the Ten Key Values of the Green Party as understood by the "Green parties".

GlobalGreens, plural, signifying the cooperative infrastructure of the Green parties (not the green parties) - this is not accepted or ratified by all Green parties and the means of global cooperation on key issues and making simultaneous policy must be covered on its own in an article that you aren't forced to read if you want to know about the key values, etc. They are at GlobalGreens web site (http://globalgreens.org) and it's easy to tell that they are Green not green parties.

This problem has arisen only because of the stupid lack of ability to differentiate capitalization for proper names, which is absolutely essential in a dictionary (like wiktionary) and for cases like this where there is a proper and generic version of the same name.

_____ I am the guilty party: 212.23.124.94 I am really embarrassed. I imagined that I was 'word procesing' on my own, and that likely no-one would even read the page for some time. I didn't realise that every correction or change would be a nuisance, and use up the server. I apologise. I did that partly from ignorance, and partly because it happens I am overriding a headache the whole time and it's just the way I am used to coping with it, by thinking of things bit by bit as they occur to me.

But as to the web sites, I started by putting them into the text in single square brackets. But someone went through and changed them to double square brackets. So I thought 'OK, I can go with that. If that is preferred, then I will put the references at one click removed.' I felt that each claim should be referenced, to show that it is true. But now I have made you guys cross by doing that as well. I thought at first maybe it was an automatic process, sorry about that.

I found it hard to reference the text - for instance, where the 'First Global Gathering' reference now goes.

I hate making people angry. This Wikipedia thing is too hard. I will leave you in peace.

hey, don't take it so bad. Everybody is making mistakes one time or another. Especially at first. You broke nothing. It is no such big deal ! Maybe would it be good to identify yourself, so people can complain to you more quickly when you make a mistake. But that's a technical issue that it is not possible to talk easily to anom. The server load is not really related to the number of time you saved, but to the time it takes to load the history of the article. You made quite a lot of save, so it takes a very long time to watch the article history now. But that's not a disaster, no ? Try to use the show preview button more often maybe. As for the external, I was also wondering what you were doing :-) Usually, we try to put external links only at the bottom of the article. We don't put an endless number of them but rather to incorporate the material in the article. External links may be something like "to know more". But, take it easy. Don't get stop by grumpy people :-) Cheer up



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