Talk:Lee Harvey Oswald

Can we get a photo credit? Vicki Rosenzweig

• I know this famous 1963 image by photographer Bob Jackson has appeared elsewhere with a copyright notice. Is it now public domain, or has the right for Wikipedia to use it been secured? Wondering simply, -- Infrogmation 20:19 Dec 4, 2002 (UTC)

Since I've still gotten no responce about this, I suggest this photo be deleted unless we're presented with evidence that we have permission to use it or it has been placed into the public domain. -- Infrogmation 02:21 Jan 26, 2003 (UTC)

Deleted.

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It is a terrible shame that Oswald can be termed a former Marine. He was in the Wing (not a combat arms-type), was court-martialed twice (once for illegal possession of a firearm and another for assaulting a superior officer), his FitReps were deplorable (Marines dub this type a "shitbird"), he shot himself in the arm, and, fortunately for his fellow Marines, he applied for and received an "early out" in the form of a dependency discharge so he could go home and take care of mommy.

This is one place in my life where I let my passion for something overtake my logic and desire for broader perspective. I have always thought of Jack Ruby as a hero, not for shooting the man that assasinated POTUS, but for providing the early removal of a blot in the Marine Corps' vaunted history. -Invictus

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Jack Ruby was a feces dropping. Calling him a hero is an insult to real heroes. - TS

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What is the source for "the rate of fire and accuracy he is purported to have attained has never been matched in latter day testing by known marksmen" ? Might this need to be made more specific; meaning for the particular type of rifle Oswald possessed? What type of rife was that? -- Infrogmation

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Again, a version of Bob Jackson's famous photograph, said in various souces to still be under copyright, was added to the article. Hfastedge, please clarify if you have gotten permission or if the copyright issue has been similarly resolved, or this will again need to be deleted. -- Infrogmation 15:24 22 May 2003 (UTC)

I believe the "innocent until proven guilty" practice should be applied here. So why dont you provide solid proof that it is not for public domain. (User:Hfastedge)

Um, you could try google. http://www.doctorcosmo.com/oswald/oswaldoriginal or

By and large works copyrighted so recently as 1963 should not be assumed to be public domain; perhaps you're thinking of 1923.

Here's a nice article about Jackson & the photo: http://alt.tnt.tv/specials/moi/photo_oswald (Note it credits "photo: Robert H. Jackson; courtesy of Robert H. Jackson".) You could try writing to him asking permission to use it. It might be nice to give him credit for it if so. -- Infrogmation 18:54 22 May 2003 (UTC)

Wikipedia's license works perfectly well with copyrighted works: namely, Fair_use. You have not provided solid evidence that this picture is not for public domain. user_talk:hfastedge

Once upon a time (it was 1976, for anyone who cares), I was told by a journalism professor that copyright on newspaper articles required that the original newspaper be acknowledged if copied or reprinted. That was before Congress rewrote copyright law in 1978, but I think that minimum standard needs to be met -- & I'm sorry to see that this wasn't done when it was re-incorporated back on 22 May. After all, this was probably the high-point in Robert Jackson's career, & using it without crediting him is wrong ethically, IMNSHO.

Why can't someone who wants this picture in the article take the time to ask Jackson if it can be included under the usual Wikipedia terms? -- llywrch 19:08 1 Jun 2003 (UTC)

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Try contacting Gary Mack, the curator of The Sixth Floor Museum at Dealey Plaza[?]. Mack could give more details on Jackson or on the copyright of the photo. Contact info can be found at http://www.jfk.org/Media/Zapruder_Press_Conference.htm.

-- Hoshie