We saw a documentary on tv tonite, where all these people who knew about the conspiracy told their stories. Kissinger and all the other politicians and even Kubrick's widow spoke and admitted the hoax was true...They also admitted the elimination of Andy Rogers, Jim Grow, Vince Broom, Bob Stein and Vernon A. Walters. Stanley Kubrick spent the last times of his life at home until he died , terrified of being also eliminated.
Broken link from subject page:
- Clavius (http://www.clavius.org/) website established to debunk the hoax theories
The first time I heard this theory was in Burkina Faso around 1987 moon landing seemed so incredible to some people there than they believe it was faked. Never heard this anymore in France until around 1995 and the idea was reported by highly educated people it seems Internet played a major role...
Ericd 22:41 Sep 12, 2002 (UTC)
- Obviously these people weren't highly educated in astronomy, photography, or engineering... --Brion 23:06 Sep 12, 2002 (UTC)
I didn't say they believe in it but there was like a doubt : "Do you think it's possible ?"
- Of all the hoaxes - sorry, conspiracy theories, this probably the one that is the easiest prove false. All used argument by those supporting the theory can be - as Brion points out - countered by using well-known and simple facts of astronomy, physics and engineering. As with most other conspiracy theories, ignoring the counter-evidence, ignoring the huge heap of other evidence and the lack of a decent answer to "why?" should be enough for most people to refer this theory to where it belongs: the garbage heap. Jeronimo
In Capricorn One they planned to fake a landing on Mars not the Moon. Mintguy 01:17 Sep 14, 2002 (UTC)
The best link is http://www.cen.uiuc.edu/~akapadia/moon
About the lack of flame: it would help if we could tell exactly what propulsed the module off the moon...
- Done. --mav
Other fata types of radiation, however, are not stopped. In Russian experiments with monkeys, the monkeys all died within 8 hours of landing. The monkeys had been in capsules whose metal walls were eight times thicker than the walls of the lunar landing module.
- This is going to require a damn good reference. The Apollo spacecraft were only in the belts for a couple hours and cosmic radiation isn't that big of a deal due to the short term nature of the trip. I recall that the astronauts got the equivalent of a couple chest X-rays of radiation for the whole trip. They were lucky that there weren't any solar storms -- those could have killed the astronauts (the LEM and spacesuits would not have prevented fatal doses of radiation). But that didn't happen. --mav
- Look at the records. There were solar storms. Really intense ones. Miraculously they survived... and lived hale and hearty into their eighties and nineties. I guess a solar storm isn't so deadly after all! --Clutch
During the Apollo program, there were several near-misses between the astronauts walking on the surface of the Moon and a deadly solar storm event. The Apollo 12 astronauts walked on the Moon only a few short weeks after a major solar proton flare would have bathed the astronauts in a 100 rem blast of radiation. Another major flare that occurred half way between the Apollo 16 and Apollo 17 moonwalks would have had a much more deadly outcome had it arrived while astronauts were outside their spacecraft playing golf. Within a few minutes, the astronauts would have been killed on the spot with an incredible 7000 rem blast of radiation.
From: http://image.gsfc.nasa.gov/poetry/storm/storms
I talked to Ralph Rene on the phone twice, he is a nice old man. Very bitter at NASA for destroying his career. Vera Cruz
- Could you be more specific? I've never talked to Rene in person but has admitted that he is a retired carpenter self-taught in physics. Where is the career connection to NASA? Ian Lancaster[?]
- I've no doubt he is a nice person. So's Harrison Schmitt, by all reports. Doesn't make any difference to whether he's correct or not. Anyway, this is getting offtopic. -- Robert Merkel
I think the point comes down to, people have very good questions about how NASA went to the moon. There are a number of technical questions to which NASA refuses to provide an answer. This is why people think there is a conspiracy. I don't care whether we went to the moon, what I care about is our government and all it's beauraucratic buddies are clearly not leveling with the public. Vera Cruz
- And what questions are those? What concerning the Apollo space program has NASA concealed from public scrutiny? Ian Lancaster[?]
Removed a sentence about hoax debunkers getting irrational when defending a subject near and dear to their hearts. It was a cheap, POV, and irrelevant shot. --136.186.1.116[?] 05:44 16 Jun 2003 (UTC)
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