User talk:JHK

See also User talk:JHK/Archive 1.

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removal of info in preparation for page deletion/user removal JHK 20:54 9 Jun 2003 (UTC)

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JHK, it's a pity that you apparently want to go. If you would like to stay in contact, you can find my E-mail on http://www.xworkplace.org/contact. I'd appreciate it. :-) -- djmutex 22:58 9 Jun 2003 (UTC)

I'm sorry to see you go again. Wikipedia won't be the same without you. --mav

I hope I'm not the one who drove you away this time, though I fear that I am. Warm regards and best wishes. Koyaanis Qatsi 23:06 9 Jun 2003 (UTC)

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Note: I moved this page here on JHK's request because she does not want to be listed on Wikipedia under her real name. --Eloquence 15:46 27 Jun 2003 (UTC)

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JHK -- It wasn't [User:Triton|Triton]] who complained anonymously about your comment about Canadians. It was me. So your hypothesis that Triton was concealing his mastery of English was wrong. I appreciate the difficulties you were having, but I didn't create them for you, and I and all the other Canadians you have never dealt with here don't need to be stereotyped by you. If you think I'm wrong, let me know, but pleeeease keep it brief and post on my user talk page. It was the prospect of long posts on my user page that led me to post anonymously. Trontonian

Thanks for the reply, but I cannot seriously believe that a person of your obvious intelligence would think that "you Canadians" doesn't refer to all Canadians. Anyway, even if you were referring only to the Canadians who were giving you prtoblems, what does their nationality have to do wiith it? Oh, well -- I don't think you should be hanged for saying it, and Canada is still thriving even though you haven't apologized. All the best. Trontonian

I should add that my problem is not with you but with the people who tolerate a double standard here. Canadians are accustomed to being condescended to, and often they exploit that condescension -- an advantage I'm in no hrry to lose. Trontonian

I also forgot to answer your questions about Canadians and the Merovingians. As far as I can make out, your average Canadian, English or French, doesn't give a cul de rat about this issue. I know I don't. What I read of the debate suggested to me you were right, too. I suspect that an unfortunate dispute like that is a sign of a fundamental flaw in the concept of Wikipedia. Trontonian

See User_talk:Trontonian. What I don't understand is why no one leapt to the conclusion I was Jacques Delson. A little research should arouse that suspicion. I'm not him either, though. Hope you stay around. Trontonian

Thanks for the note. I'll be checking out the Jacques Delson/DW hypothesis.

I have now posted an hypothesis of my own about Jacques Delso/DW at User_talk:Jtdirl. Trontonian

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Wow, I do just a little to get started yesterday; then when I come back, it's all done! Good job everybody! -- Toby Bartels 19:20 1 Jul 2003 (UTC)

Julie, I would like to add that you mentionned in the list, I was insulting RK on the theory talk page. I don't think it is true, and it saddens me that you said I did. You also write on the talk page that I did not ask the protection of the page. This is also untrue. I did. I also did ask several (I really mean several, look at the comment history) times protection of one of these pages (but which one was it ??? Gaia Theory I think) a month ago (I think you were not around); And nobody did the protection. I knew this time that enough people knew about the pb, I asked protection this time, so I knew someone would do it ultimately. I just wanted to stuff all what had been left over in the articles transformed in redirect to be sure all the relevant information was there, before it was frozen. I had just the time to it, since I finished a couple of mn before you froze it. I didnot remove anything RK wrote; I just add the controversial stuff. And even if I one day said from someone that he is a vandal, I *never* once used that word for RK. Never. I have however the feeling that my history of using it once on a user is a bit condemning me here. I really feel sorry I did. I also think that a one-time offense might be forgiven. Well, I thought and hoped anyway. I was wrong. Clearly. I feel so unhappy, I don't even feel the desire to participate in any other discussion today.

Really . Well, I did call someone a vandal. Fat little buddha. Who (or anyone else willing me to go away) reappeared today. Look at the mailing list. Here it is. I think my time over here is over. I think the Gaia articles will be messy, and that now RK will attack on other matters as well, just as did Fat Buddha. This is not I wish to do here. And if everyone accept these behaviors, it makes me unhappy. I am not here to be unhappy. But thanks a lot

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I noticed that you criticized the article on the "history of Africa" on the same grounds that I had about a month ago. Although pre-colonial Sub-Saharan Africa is far beyond my areas of expertise as a historian, I've been meaning to contribute content detailing the histories of black African states like Ghana, Mali, Songhai, Kanem-Bornu, Kano, Ashanti, Oyo, Benin, Ife, Monomontapa, or the Swahili-speaking city-states in East Africa. I agree completely that the content (or lack of content) on the histories of pre-colonial Sub-Saharan African peoples, both literate and non-literate, can be perceived as an example of ethnocentrism and disrespect for non-Western peoples.

I agree that this page should be linked to regional histories. I would be very happy to work with you on creating the links to such regional histories. If you're interested perhaps we should divide up the workload, choosing certain eras or regions that we'd like to detail.

Thanks for your comments! 172

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FearÉIREANN has been filling me in some more about the history of DW. I think I have a much better idea of the exasperation you all must have been feeling. I'm glad I was obnoxious and got you guys to explain it to me. I'm also glad it got me to say who Trontonian is. That should prevent another misunderstanding like this occurring. Trontonian