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name changed to "H.J." at request of banned user

 Jimmy Wales wikipedia-l@nupedia.com 
 Mon, 9 Sep 2002 10:19:10 -0700 

 After much deliberation, and after due consideration for all of the
 arguments and discussions here, and taking into account what appears
 to me to be a general consensus, I have chosen to ban H.J. for a
 period of 3 months.

 After that time, she can reapply to me personally for re-instatement.

 I know that not everyone will be happy with this decision, although
 the vast majority will be.  Such is the nature of consensus.  I can't
 wait for unanimity, or we will wait forever.

 I am fully aware of the dangers of precedent, which is why I have
 waited so long to take action in this case.  Banning should always be
 a "last resort".  After more than a year of trying to work with H.J.,
 and after losing more than one highly valued contributor because of
 her, we are now at a last resort stage.

 To my mind, the difficulty with H.J. is not her idiosyncratic views
 on history, but her inability or refusal to work co-operatively to
 resolve differences.  Even here, on the mailing list, where I invited
 her to discuss these issues, she prefers to ignore discussions about
 her posting style in order to re-iterate accusations of censorship and
 to repeat her strange historical claims.

 In order to contribute to a restoration of the peace, I will be mostly
 avoiding further public comment, although everyone who likes is more
 than invited to write to me privately to support or decry this
 decision.

 H.J., in particular, is welcome to write to me to discuss this, but
 there is really no appeal possible at this point.  The ban is not
 permanent, and with good behavior, she can come back and try again in
 3 months time.

 --Jimbo

archived here (http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2002-September/004833)


 Jimmy Wales wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org 
 Tue, 3 Dec 2002 06:39:46 -0800 

 Vicki Rosenzweig wrote:
 > H.J. is back on the Wikipedia (see the user talk for H.J.). As far as
 > I can tell, she was banned on September 9, for three months. Have I missed
 > an announcement, or is this return without Jimbo's knowledge/assent?

 This return is without my knowledge or assent.  She's supposed to talk to me
 first.

 --Jimbo

archived here (http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2002-December/008097)


(in response to "Has the ban been lifted?")

 Jimmy Wales wikipedia-l@wikipedia.org 
 Sun, 25 May 2003 12:07:20 -0700 

 No, Helga is not welcome to edit any wikipedia, she is banned.  If she
 wishes to start again, the same offer stands as always -- she can
 email me and chat about it.

 --Jimbo

archived here (http://mail.wikipedia.org/pipermail/wikipedia-l/2003-May/010332)



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